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Re: Radiohead

Post by AFX » 26 Feb 2011 11:25

Con il passare dei giorni comincio a cambiare idea:

- non ci sarà un seguito a breve
- ci sarà un altro mini album magari in autunno/inverno 2011/12 (pensate se dopo queste 8 canzoni tocca aspettare altri 3 anni e mezzo?!!!)
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Pilgrim » 26 Feb 2011 11:41

AFX wrote:Con il passare dei giorni comincio a cambiare idea:

- non ci sarà un seguito a breve
- ci sarà un altro mini album magari in autunno/inverno 2011/12 (pensate se dopo queste 8 canzoni tocca aspettare altri 3 anni e mezzo?!!!)
prevedo anch'io una cosa del genere.

questa è la review che finora mi trova più d'accordo (dal guardian)

[spoiler]It's hard to think of an album that sparked more internet discussion in such a short space of time as Radiohead's The King of Limbs did last Friday. Spurred into action by its arrival a day earlier than expected, harassed reviewers reviewed it on first hearing, and commenters and bloggers complained that it was ridiculous to offer opinions based on one listen, then offered their opinions about it anyway. Other journalists sidestepped having to form any views of their own by writing pieces that simply collated other people's, some of which were admittedly pretty amazing. "A few consider it awfully doomy," noted the Los Angeles Times, highlighting the hitherto-unheard subsection of Radiohead's fanbase apparently distraught the band had chosen to abandon their trademark boozy, good-time boogie sound.

All that virtual ink spilt and what did we learn about The King of Limbs? Largely that it lends itself less well to the kind of snap judgements Radiohead's current woo-hoo-we're-BEHIND-YOU modus operandi forces critics to make than its predecessor. In Rainbows handily offered them the sound of latterday Radiohead at their most prosaic. It foregrounded the guitars and songs of the tried-and-tested-stage favourite variety, relegating the electronics and experiments to a prominent supporting role: the result was as warm and human-sounding an album as Radiohead have made.

But The King of Limbs is structured not unlike David Bowie's Low: the more obviously song-based material in one half, sonic experiments in the other – but with the tough stuff first. Opener Bloom is dense, knotted and difficult, clattering rhythms, scattered pulses of bass, no verse-chorus structure, not much of a tune. Somewhere between a mess and a thrilling flood of barely marshalled ideas – a sensation amplified by the recording, which keeps slipping into needles-in-the-red distortion – it's music that's almost wilfully difficult to get a handle on. The lyrics are as elliptical as ever, but the overall message appears to be: try and form a quick opinion about this. Candidates are reminded to write on both sides of the paper. Handwriting and spelling, as well as the fact that a lot of people who thought Kid A was impenetrable ended up calling it the album of the decade, will be taken into account.

You could argue that there's more fun to be had in imagining deadline-pressured hacks trying to work out what to say about The King of Limbs' first five tracks than there is in actually listening to them. But if the overall impression is of a band so lost in sound they forgot to write songs, you have to admit the sound is pretty fascinating: the way the vocals shift unexpectedly in volume and clarity, the restless guitars that underpin Morning Mr Magpie and add a sense of agitation to a song that appears to be about the banking crisis, the bass overload and scattered vocal samples of Feral. This latter is the clearest example of those singles by Zomby, Untold and Ramadanman that Thom Yorke keeps plugging on the Radiohead website exerting an influence on the band's sound. What's intriguing is how well-incorporated it is; it's one of Radiohead's USPs that they are able to assimilate influences from dance music's outer limits without ever sounding like they're trying too hard.

When the album finally finds a more conventional focus, its structure makes sense as something more than a reaction against In Rainbows' user-friendliness. Lotus Flower, a new addition to what you have to say is a fairly slender catalogue of Radiohead songs about having it off, is as plaintive and sensual as the preceding tracks are opaque and remote – a trick repeated on Give Up the Ghost's sigh of submission. Neither are exactly a barrel of laughs, but they nevertheless feel like a long, relieved exhalation of breath after Feral's muggy, wordless dread.

Codex, meanwhile, is the kind of piano ballad that Radiohead were inadvertently responsible for making a default setting in rock music of recent years: such things obviously existed before OK Computer, but you can draw a pretty direct line between Karma Police and the stuff that gets played in the background when an X Factor hopeful starts talking about a recently deceased relative. It should sound hackneyed, but it doesn't. The melody is beautiful, but it winds and turns unexpectedly. The spectral brass and strings do the opposite of what orchestral arrangements usually do: instead of cosseting you with lushness, there's something unsettling about the way they weave in and out of the song.

Listening to it, you're reminded that Radiohead are the only band of their size and status that seem driven by an impulse to twist their music into different shapes. As The King of Limbs proves, when it works it's glorious, but that impulse doesn't always yield perfect results. Still, listening to Radiohead try is never less than intriguing; after all, their peers aren't trying at all.

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Re: Radiohead

Post by AFX » 28 Feb 2011 12:53

su RYM un gruppo popolare come i Radiohead non si può valutare bene ormai... non più almeno

tuttavia,

The King of Limbs dopo oltre duemila voti è a 3.49
a parte Pablo Honey, è nettamente il più basso finora. HTTT ha 3.75 che è già sinonimo di album molto apprezzato.
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Re: Radiohead

Post by oppholdsvaer » 02 Mar 2011 22:05

nessuna intervista, nessun seguito, nessun webcast.
qualcosa non va.
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Re: Radiohead

Post by AFX » 03 Mar 2011 00:36

dici che c'è speranza per il DISC2? Ci credi personalmente?
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Pilgrim » 03 Mar 2011 00:45

AFX wrote:dici che c'è speranza per il DISC2? Ci credi personalmente?
io non ci credo, ma il loro essere praticamente spariti significa diverse cose:

-o sono talmente subdoli da volerci fare scervellare ancora un pochetto per farsi due risate con i video del thom ballerino (sempre che l'autoironia di Yorke lo consenta, e ne dubito)
-o sono talmente scemi da essersi chiusi in studio per scrivere il disco dopo tutto sto parlare
-o sono stati rapiti dagli alieni e non credo che li lascerebbero andare

option one is the most likely.
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Re: Radiohead

Post by oppholdsvaer » 03 Mar 2011 11:30

il mio è un qualcosa non va aperto ad interpretazioni.
non va perchè non mi piace questo modo di presentare un disco, avrei voluto che la suonassero un po' questa musica, come avevano fatto con IR. vorrei sentire cosa hanno da dire a riguardo, anche se ormai il disco è più che sviscerato.
non va anche perchè è troppo strano da parte loro un atteggiamento simile. non sono mai stati dei ruffiani, ma così non mi piace..

e non credo che a questo punto possa arrivere un disc2, non si sa mai, ma me lo immagino più verso novembre o inizio anno prossimo..
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Pilgrim » 04 Mar 2011 15:18

oppholdsvaer wrote:nessuna intervista, nessun seguito, nessun webcast.
qualcosa non va.
parla Jonny Greenwood.

e non dice una mazza, visto che parla della colonna sonora, e fa il vago quando si citano i Radiohead (anche se dice "stiamo provando e registrando...........). il mistero si infittisce. chiamate giacobbo.
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Kqueg » 05 Mar 2011 01:54

Il fatto che abbiano pubblicato con questi metodi ma sopratutto con una virata sonora che mi ha convinto a me fà l'effetto opposto, ovvero mi fà apprezzare un pò di più l'album vedendoci -qualcosa- in questo tipo di scelte.

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