Primal Scream
Primal Scream
Topic per la band scozzese di Glasgow in arrivo per una data a Torino in estate (forse anche un'altra a Roma?)
chi li conosce e apprezza potrebbe tentare un riassunto qui, dagli esordi twee-pop di Sonic Flower Groove ai recenti capitoli (che personalmente non ho apprezzato)
da RYM:
Primal Scream began in the early 80s as a two-man project consisting of Bobby Gillespie and Jim Beattie, two bored Glaswegian rockers who spent their spare time making noise on their guitars. By 1984, Primal Scream had become more of a proper band, playing jangly, psychedelic pop, which fit well with the trends in indie music of the time. Gillespie became the singer, Beattie became the guitarist, and a rhythm section including bassist Robert "Throb" Young was recruited.
Warming up for The Jesus and Mary Chain, the band in which Gillespie played drums from 1984 to 1986, Primal Scream played their first gig on October 11th, 1984. They signed to Creation Records, released a string of psychedelic singles from 1985 to 1987, and became a cult band. However, the band's debut album, Sonic Flower Groove (1987), was no success.
After the album, the original Primal Scream more or less disbanded. Gillespie, Young (now on guitar) and guitarist Andrew Innes moved to Brighton and reincarnated Primal Scream as a hard rock group. An eponymous album, released in 1989 and featuring pianist Martin Duffy (of Felt), was as un-notable as its predecessor. Around the same time, Primal Scream had discovered ecstasy and the acid house scene.
In 1990, the band scored its first true hit with "Loaded", house DJ Andrew Weatherall's remix of a track from the previous album. With their subsequent recordings, Primal Scream combined rock and house, also adding elements from genres such as soul, disco, dub, and gospel. The album Screamadelica, released in 1991 and partly produced by Weatherall, was one of the most colourful albums of the era and marked their breakthrough.
After spending some years partying over the success, Primal Scream moved to Memphis and recorded Give Out But Don't Give Up (1994), featuring funk legend George Clinton. Far less original than Screamadelica, Give Out contained rock and roll with funk and Southern influences. It gave them one of their biggest hits, "Rocks". After that album, some members (the rhythm section and singer Denise Johnson) left the band or were fired, and Primal Scream was declared finished by the press.
With Gary "Mani" Mounfield of The Stone Roses on bass guitar, Primal Scream returned in 1997 with Vanishing Point, heavily influenced by dub music and krautrock, and more experimental than Give Out. They began their collaboration with My Bloody Valentine mastermind Kevin Shields in 1998, and Shields had a strong influence on the following two albums.
Musically, Xtrmntr (2000) was their most complex album to date. Heavily electronic, it drew from free jazz and Detroit rock, and also had aggressive and political lyrics. Xtrmntr recieved generally positive reviews. Its follow-up, Evil Heat (2002), followed a relatively similar path.
After a hiatus of sorts, Primal Scream returned in 2006 with "Country Girl", their highest charting single yet. The following album, Riot City Blues, was another return to more traditional rock and roll, released to mixed reviews. The same year, longtime guitarist Robert "Throb" Young left the band. The band's ninth album, Beautiful Future, which was more of a pop album, was released in 2008, again to mixed reviews.
a grande richiesta e dopo una dovuta revisione, nonché ulteriore confronto, Screamadelica è adesso nella top100 degli anni 90. (c'è anche un'altra new entry...)
chi li conosce e apprezza potrebbe tentare un riassunto qui, dagli esordi twee-pop di Sonic Flower Groove ai recenti capitoli (che personalmente non ho apprezzato)
da RYM:
Primal Scream began in the early 80s as a two-man project consisting of Bobby Gillespie and Jim Beattie, two bored Glaswegian rockers who spent their spare time making noise on their guitars. By 1984, Primal Scream had become more of a proper band, playing jangly, psychedelic pop, which fit well with the trends in indie music of the time. Gillespie became the singer, Beattie became the guitarist, and a rhythm section including bassist Robert "Throb" Young was recruited.
Warming up for The Jesus and Mary Chain, the band in which Gillespie played drums from 1984 to 1986, Primal Scream played their first gig on October 11th, 1984. They signed to Creation Records, released a string of psychedelic singles from 1985 to 1987, and became a cult band. However, the band's debut album, Sonic Flower Groove (1987), was no success.
After the album, the original Primal Scream more or less disbanded. Gillespie, Young (now on guitar) and guitarist Andrew Innes moved to Brighton and reincarnated Primal Scream as a hard rock group. An eponymous album, released in 1989 and featuring pianist Martin Duffy (of Felt), was as un-notable as its predecessor. Around the same time, Primal Scream had discovered ecstasy and the acid house scene.
In 1990, the band scored its first true hit with "Loaded", house DJ Andrew Weatherall's remix of a track from the previous album. With their subsequent recordings, Primal Scream combined rock and house, also adding elements from genres such as soul, disco, dub, and gospel. The album Screamadelica, released in 1991 and partly produced by Weatherall, was one of the most colourful albums of the era and marked their breakthrough.
After spending some years partying over the success, Primal Scream moved to Memphis and recorded Give Out But Don't Give Up (1994), featuring funk legend George Clinton. Far less original than Screamadelica, Give Out contained rock and roll with funk and Southern influences. It gave them one of their biggest hits, "Rocks". After that album, some members (the rhythm section and singer Denise Johnson) left the band or were fired, and Primal Scream was declared finished by the press.
With Gary "Mani" Mounfield of The Stone Roses on bass guitar, Primal Scream returned in 1997 with Vanishing Point, heavily influenced by dub music and krautrock, and more experimental than Give Out. They began their collaboration with My Bloody Valentine mastermind Kevin Shields in 1998, and Shields had a strong influence on the following two albums.
Musically, Xtrmntr (2000) was their most complex album to date. Heavily electronic, it drew from free jazz and Detroit rock, and also had aggressive and political lyrics. Xtrmntr recieved generally positive reviews. Its follow-up, Evil Heat (2002), followed a relatively similar path.
After a hiatus of sorts, Primal Scream returned in 2006 with "Country Girl", their highest charting single yet. The following album, Riot City Blues, was another return to more traditional rock and roll, released to mixed reviews. The same year, longtime guitarist Robert "Throb" Young left the band. The band's ninth album, Beautiful Future, which was more of a pop album, was released in 2008, again to mixed reviews.
a grande richiesta e dopo una dovuta revisione, nonché ulteriore confronto, Screamadelica è adesso nella top100 degli anni 90. (c'è anche un'altra new entry...)
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Screamadelica e' ancora il disco loro che preferisco, anche se lo ascolto poco di questi tempi.
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Nemmeno io, va bene il garage e gli Stooges ma gli ultimi dischi mancano di cuore e nerbo.AFX wrote:i recenti capitoli (che personalmente non ho apprezzato)
I primi due dischi li conosco poco perché fatico a trovarli originali.
Dal terzo disco in avanti diventano una band enorme. Screamadelica è la fusione perfetta del loro suono primordiale con l'acid house, la disco anni '70, il flower power, la jungle e chissà cos'altro. Un melting pot totale, un capolavoro.
I due dischi successivi sono carini ma non epocali (segnalo comunque la collaborazione con George Clinton in Give Out But Don't Give Up), l'altra pietra miliare loro è XTRMNTR, che fa con la techno quello che Screamadelica aveva fatto con qello che ho scritto sopra. XTRMNTR è acidissimo, incazzato, fortemente politico, oltretutto nobilitato dalla presenza di Kevin Shields alla chitarra in qualche pezzo. Per me meglio anche di Screamadelica, un disco che tutti dovrebbero amare.
Personalmente ho un debole per Evil Heat, che però prosegue in sostanza il discorso di XTRMNTR, mentre Vanishing Point (che viene prima di XTRMNTR) merita anche solo per la titletrack, omaggio al film di Sarafian.
Gli ultimi due sono trascurabilissimi.
No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
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Top 5 canzoni (soggetta a variazioni, difficilissima da compilare, cerco di coprire più dischi possibile):
Swastika Eyes
Come Together
Deep Hit Of The Morning Sun
Vanishing Point
Give Out But Don't Give Up
Vale la pena notare che Bobby Gillespie era anche nei Jesus Mary Chain e il bassista Gary "Mani" Mounfield era il bassista degli Stone Roses.
Swastika Eyes
Come Together
Deep Hit Of The Morning Sun
Vanishing Point
Give Out But Don't Give Up
Vale la pena notare che Bobby Gillespie era anche nei Jesus Mary Chain e il bassista Gary "Mani" Mounfield era il bassista degli Stone Roses.
No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
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XTRMNTR è splendido, lo ascolto ancora spesso... degli ultimi ultimi ho dato un ascolto a riot city blues e l'ho immediatamente cancellato dell'hd...
non conosco bene tutti gli album quindi non sarei in grado di fare un top 5, ma al posto di swastika eyes metterei XTRMNTR..
non conosco bene tutti gli album quindi non sarei in grado di fare un top 5, ma al posto di swastika eyes metterei XTRMNTR..
Endlich, unendlich, in Ruhe gelassen, aber beweglich, frei zu Lärmen, ohne Schuld!
Redukt!
Redukt!
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Sì, ci sta, SE l'ho messa anche perché è il loro pezzone famosissimo, roba che farebbe ballare ancora oggi senza alcun dubbio, con dei suoni spettacolari. Da quel disco io ne metterei tante, anche Accelerator con la chitarra di Kevin Shields che fa CASINO BELLISSIMO.
No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
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Uno dei loro grandi meriti è quello di essere sempre stati in grado di inserire elementi di ricerca sonora in un contesto che di fatto è mainstream - in UK sono famosissimi, delle vere star - senza però mai volgarizzarli o banalizzarli. Per esempio Blood Money chè sta su XTRMNTR potrebbe essere un pezzo di Amon Tobin o quasi.
E non è un caso che il remix di Swastika Eyes a opera dei Chemical Bros. sia più dozzinale dell'originale (sulla quale Mani tiene una linea di basso che è da urlo).
E non è un caso che il remix di Swastika Eyes a opera dei Chemical Bros. sia più dozzinale dell'originale (sulla quale Mani tiene una linea di basso che è da urlo).
No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
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io in Screamadelica ci sento moltissimo gli happy mondays e le altre cose di scuola madchester
non tra i miei prefeiriti, ma bravi sicuramente
non tra i miei prefeiriti, ma bravi sicuramente
she sells sea shells on the sea shore the sea shells she sells are sea shells i'm sure!
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dopo varie revisioni e molti ripensamenti mi sento di dire che preferisco XTRMNTR a Screamadelica, avevo sempre sostenuto il contrario
Ci aveva pensato..
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Preferisco di molto XTRMNTR a Screamadelica.
Riot City Blues fa veramente schifo, so che si sono divertiti a suonarlo ma resta un disco BRUTTO.
Beautiful Future parte malissimo e si salva nella seconda metà, ma niente di memorabile.
Riot City Blues fa veramente schifo, so che si sono divertiti a suonarlo ma resta un disco BRUTTO.
Beautiful Future parte malissimo e si salva nella seconda metà, ma niente di memorabile.
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