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First new Botch song in 20 years. Included on the new re-issue of "We Are the Romans" available 11/4 via Sargent House.

2xLP / CD pre-order available here -https://found.ee/Botch-Romans-122

https://botch.bandcamp.com/track/one-twenty-two

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Con un post sui social, Scott Kelly ha annunciato di voler smettere di essere un musicista professionista (e quindi immagino di lasciare i Neurosis). Ciò ha a che vedere con degli abusi che avrebbe ammesso di compiere nei confronti di sua moglie e i figli. Se uno legge il suo comunicato, gli sembra che ha fatto tutto da solo. Mah
Strani sti americani.

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Due to recent events, I feel that I clearly need to address some rumors and set the record straight. For the past several years I have engaged in the emotional, financial, verbal and physical abuse of my wife and younger children. When I became paranoid that people were going to find out, I found ways to keep my wife and kids from work and school and created divisions with friends and family members. I became obsessed with control and used threats, manipulation, threats of self-harm and suicide, inflicted physical damage on people and their reputations all to keep that control. When I knew my wife was going to leave I tried to convince her and others that I was crazy, and seeing things, and that I did not know what I was doing. She tried to help me with therapy and psychiatrists. My lies and deceptions fell apart in front of the professionals. When my wife finally tried to leave, I stalked and harassed her day and night and caused her and our youngest to live in a constant state of fear. I have lied or told half truths to so many people about so much of this that I can’t keep track of them. I don’t want to lie about any of this anymore. I love my wife to no end. She is the best person that I know. She is intensely honest, loving and good to her core. This letter is massive simplification of the irreparable damage I have caused and the unforgivable things that I’ve done to her and our kids. To say more in this public forum would not help anyone. As the truth has started to leak out there have been people who have tried to blame my wife for my abuse to give me an out and people who have spread ridiculous and damaging rumors about her. This is fucked. She deserves so much better. If you are adopting this mentality or spreading these rumors you need to fucking stop. I have some serious issues that I am dealing with and I have separated myself from anyone who is connected with my public life so that I can focus on my own toxic shit. When my wife has been kind enough to answer questions about my absence, she has faced crazy accusations. There was a recent situation that was so fucked up that it necessitated immediate action on my part to set the record straight. My wife absolutely speaks for me in my absence and I have already said she is intensely honest. If you don’t want the truth definitely don’t ask her questions. Additionally it is never appropriate to approach or question our children.
I know now that choosing to live a public life and be onstage was the worst decision that I could have made given the way that I am. I have hidden behind the attention and unfounded respect and adulation. I used my social position to directly and indirectly manipulate all of you and to hide the abuse of my family. I got satisfaction from my deception and perceived control of everyone involved. I am 100% permanently retired from being a professional musician. Some people can be in a scene like this where there is no accountability and maintain their integrity. I cannot. My sole focus for the rest of my life is on taking care of my family, allowing them safe space to heal and rebuilding their trust. I hope putting this out there will protect my wife from further attacks and finally allow my family some peace.

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A STATEMENT FROM NEUROSIS
We cannot overstate the level of disgust and disappointment we feel for a man who we once called Brother.
As a band, we parted ways with Scott Kelly at the end of 2019 after learning about severe acts of abuse he committed towards his family over the previous years. In the past, Scott had disclosed his marital difficulties and acts of verbal abuse, as well as his intention to get help and change his behaviors. The information we learned in 2019 made it clear Scott had crossed a line and there was no way back. We did not share this information out of respect for his wife’s direct request for privacy, and to honor the family’s wish not to let their experience become gossip in a music magazine. With Scott’s Facebook post of August 27, 2022 disclosing much of this information publicly, we can finally say what we believe needs to be said.
For the last twenty years we have lived far apart from one another and only saw Scott when meeting up to work on music or play shows. We had no idea what the reality was for his family when we were not around. By Scott's own admission, his abuse was intentional, targeted, and a closely guarded secret - even from those of us closest to him.
Once we learned of his abuse it was difficult to reconcile the horrible information with the person we thought we knew. It’s not surprising he hid the abuse for so long because it is a betrayal of our ethics as bandmates, partners, parents, and human beings.
Since 2019, we have made numerous attempts to contact Scott. We wanted to have an honest talk about the status of the band and find out how he and his family were doing, but he has refused to speak with us for three years. And, in what we now see clearly to be a pattern, Scott refused to take responsibility for his actions. Having been through so much with someone for more than 35 years, one would expect some amount of closure, or at the very least a response.
Now, without returning any of the calls, texts, or e-mails of his bandmates and friends, Scott has made a public post about the situation. To us, this decision seems like another attempt at manipulation, another opportunity for his narcissism to control the narrative. Don't allow Scott to make this about himself, it's about the abuse his family has suffered.
Usually, we would view public openness and honesty about mental illness as brave and even productive. We just don’t believe that is the case here.
There is nothing brave about systematically abusing your wife and children.
There is nothing brave about confessing wrongdoing when you have not done the work to change your behavior.
There is nothing brave about refusing to speak honestly, or speak at all, with one’s closest friends and bandmates, people who have supported you and stuck by you for most of your life.
Compared to the impact of Scott’s actions on his family, the impact on our band pales in significance. Nevertheless, with the heartbreak and horror we also grieve for the loss of our life’s work and a legacy that was sacred to us.
Again, our primary concern is for the safety and well-being of Scott’s wife and children, as well as anyone else in a similar situation. If someone you know is experiencing domestic violence or abuse, please reach out to one of the many local or national resources available. One national resource is:
National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-7233 www.thehotline.org
If you or someone you know is suffering from mental health issues that could make you a danger to yourself or others, please get help before you hurt yourself or the people you love. One resource for that is:
www.988lifeline.org
This is the only statement we plan to make about this issue. In due course, when it's appropriate, we will provide more information about our future musical endeavors, but that time is not now.

Sto leggendo i commenti allo statement dei Neurosis su Facebook. Tutti i fan li ringraziano per aver preso posizione (in realtà nel post dicono di sapere dal 2019 circa, o anche da prima). Che ipocriti, che penosi gli americani che mettono al bando un artista per le sue azioni, deplorevoli magari, nella vita privata. Come con Kevin Spacey a cui hanno fatto terra bruciata attorno e ci hanno tolto uno dei più grandi attori della storia. Che disgusto pure il resto della band che lo rinnega, manco avesse tradito la loro arte. Ma vaffanculo a te e ai Neurosis, ipocriti. Sono io che ridimensiono voi per quanto siete imbecilli (d'altronde una band che non si accorge che Steve Albini li ingolfa, qualche problema di Q.I. ce l'ha)

Se Scott Kelly mena, deve essere punito, incarcerato, multato il Kelly persona, non è un problema dei Neurosis e della loro arte. Caravaggio uccide, "stupra e fa stuprare", la Chiesa di un tempo lo mette al bando, poi secoli dopo ci si accorge che è uno dei più grandi pittori della storia, un genio assoluto dell'umanità. Possibile che non si riesca a separare l'artista dalla persona, civile o incivile che sia.
Cancel Culture di merda. Ipocriti americani, ridicoli. Avete fatto a incularella con le canzoni di Michael Jackson una vita, a mo' non va più bene. Vergogna.

AFX wrote: ↑29 Aug 2022 21:48 Sto leggendo i commenti allo statement dei Neurosis su Facebook. Tutti i fan li ringraziano per aver preso posizione (in realtà nel post dicono di sapere dal 2019 circa, o anche da prima). Che ipocriti, che penosi gli americani che mettono al bando un artista per le sue azioni, deplorevoli magari, nella vita privata. Come con Kevin Spacey a cui hanno fatto terra bruciata attorno e ci hanno tolto uno dei più grandi attori della storia. Che disgusto pure il resto della band che lo rinnega, manco avesse tradito la loro arte. Ma vaffanculo a te e ai Neurosis, ipocriti. Sono io che ridimensiono voi per quanto siete imbecilli (d'altronde una band che non si accorge che Steve Albini li ingolfa, qualche problema di Q.I. ce l'ha)

Se Scott Kelly mena, deve essere punito, incarcerato, multato il Kelly persona, non è un problema dei Neurosis e della loro arte. Caravaggio uccide, "stupra e fa stuprare", la Chiesa di un tempo lo mette al bando, poi secoli dopo ci si accorge che è uno dei più grandi pittori della storia, un genio assoluto dell'umanità. Possibile che non si riesca a separare l'artista dalla persona, civile o incivile che sia.
Cancel Culture di merda. Ipocriti americani, ridicoli. Avete fatto a incularella con le canzoni di Michael Jackson una vita, a mo' non va più bene. Vergogna.

E' un popolo oramai in profondissima crisi culturale (che già le basi erano quello che erano). A cosa serve un post di questo tipo da parte della band? Se da 20 anni (20, cazzo) sapevate di una certa condotta, ve ne uscite adesso? E se lo volevate aiutare, in 20 anni davvero non siete riusciti ad andare oltre a delle telefonate non risposte?
Solo perché l'ha detto lui il giorno prima ed oramai la vostra cultura vi IMPONE di mettere alla berlina una persona anche al minimo accenno di un qualcosa che vada contro sta fottuta e ridicola ondata woke.
Temo che abbiano dovuto fare questo post prima di essere messi alla berlina (anche loro da parte di qualche sedicente sbarbatello, gli stessi che buttavano a mare le statue di Cristoforo Colombo, per dire. Ciò non toglie che è una pagliacciata. C'erano modi decisamente più adulti ed eleganti per chiudere la questione, pur prendendo le distanze da Kelly.

Rimane un grandissimo gruppo musicale, che continuerò ad ascoltare. Ma cazzo, che pena.

A me dei due comunicati fa più pena quello ipocrita dei Neurosis. Scott Kelly sarà pure colpevole, ma che deve fare, suicidarsi per farli contenti e liberarli dal peccato?
con questa storia hanno pensato di proteggere il loro business, non le loro coscienze. Vergogna

Riascoltavo dopo 3 anni penso almeno i Pelican, quelli di The Fire in Our Throats Will ...
Che bellissima registrazione, in bilico tra post rock, metal e suono acustico da sala prove. Chi ama il genere post- e non ha questo disco, facesse in modo di averne una copia perché vale il posto nella vostra discoteca. E lo dico dopo averlo comprato ormai 17 anni or sono, quando eravamo nel 3rd Eye a parlarne al momento dell'uscita. E ancora mi piace.

AFX wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022 15:50 Riascoltavo dopo 3 anni penso almeno i Pelican, quelli di The Fire in Our Throats Will ...
Che bellissima registrazione, in bilico tra post rock, metal e suono acustico da sala prove. Chi ama il genere post- e non ha questo disco, facesse in modo di averne una copia perché vale il posto nella vostra discoteca. E lo dico dopo averlo comprato ormai 17 anni or sono, quando eravamo nel 3rd Eye a parlarne al momento dell'uscita. E ancora mi piace.

Sempre piaciuto molto questo! Non ce l'ho originale in effetti...