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Post by AFX » 10 Feb 2018 20:06

Temere l'ennesima crosta è naturale, non so se l'orecchio di Iha può salvarci
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Re: apples + oranjes = the Smashing Pumpkins

Post by rick81 » 12 Feb 2018 13:34

D’arcy ci rivela che è stata esclusa e che iha non c’entra nulla a parte il tour.

Last month, D’arcy confirmed to BlastEcho that she was very disappointed that she would not be participating in any sort of reunion with the band and apologized to the fans for her absence.


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D’arcy’s reveal somewhat coincided with a steady diet of Instagram updates by Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan that appeared to be about new Pumpkins music from the original band—or, at least, three-fourths of it—with producer Rick Rubin in Los Angeles.

Now it’s come to light that the only original members involved in the recording were, in fact, Corgan and drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, according to text exchanges between D’arcy and Corgan.

Based on a text conversation between D’arcy and Corgan from mid-January, Corgan wrote, “well, so you know, [original guitarist] James [Iha] isn’t here either. It’s me and Jimmy working and [guitarist] Jeff [Schroeder] now too.”

Further, Corgan texted, “James is focused on his stuff, which is why he isn’t here. And, as far as Rubin, he’s gonna be involved a little but not the whole thing.”

D’arcy said she told that the plan had been to record only one new song with Rick Rubin with all of the original members in January, but unbeknownst to her, the plan changed. She only found out about the recording sessions the same way the rest of the world did: Instagram.

According to D’arcy, Corgan reached out to her through texts trying to explain her exclusion and assuage any worries she might have had after having seen the photo of all her bandmates in an L.A. studio together.

Once Corgan went public, he texted her “as far as you not being involved, there was never any decision to shut you out, or make you not welcome. It’s more about getting on the same page with [the] tour first and then the necessity of the song came up.” He further added, “so focus on [the] tour and I think we can find the right way to have you involved. I know speaking with Jimmy, he wants you involved so that the tour is the best thing we can all give the fans and build for the future.”

Though Corgan recently revealed via Instagram that the band has “26 songs currently in various states of production,” the text exchange between Corgan and D’arcy referenced just one new song.

According to D’arcy, they both spoke many times about their shared desire to “be a band again and to do it right this time and have fun with it in a relaxed environment.” Neither wanted to do a typical “reunion tour.” D’arcy says Corgan told her that Iha and Chamberlin had no desire to record a full album, so they would instead record one new song and then tour the following summer.

Expanding on a previous statement D’arcy made to BlastEcho, D’arcy said that Corgan initially made a contract offer to her, Iha and Chamberlin, which was agreed upon by all parties. However, a month later D’arcy says Billy told her “well, that wasn’t a real offer.” It’s unclear whether or not the initial offer remains for Iha and Chamberlin, although D’arcy is under the impression it is.

An explanation as to why the offer was rescinded, too, remains unclear. Cryptically, she said she has an inkling but “that is a whole other can of worms and a big, ugly one! Another time.”

However, after the offer was pulled, she said he said via text that both Iha–who D’arcy had kept in touch with over the past 16 years–and Chamberlin were “with him” on that decision to reunite without her. “I am totally disgusted with James,” she said via text. “He should be ashamed of himself.”

The clock on the Pumpkins’ website is slated to expire on Thursday, at which point new music and the announcement of a tour slated to begin in July will be revealed. In addition to Corgan, Iha and Chamberlin, Schroeder will play guitar with this new incarnation. It’s also believed, but not confirmed, that Jack Bates, who played bass for the Pumpkins in a recent version of the band, will retain the same role going forward.

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Post by AFX » 12 Feb 2018 15:46

3.9 preventivo

Tanto la sostanza è la stessa: le canzoni le scrive Corgan, e le canta Corgan. Finché è così, non c'è Rubin o Chamberlin che possano fare qualcosa. Sarà del livello del resto da Zeitgeist in poi.
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Re: apples + oranjes = the Smashing Pumpkins

Post by simoirs » 12 Feb 2018 15:50

Sarà il solito album allora, giusto Jimmy può renderlo un minimo interessante.

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Re: apples + oranjes = the Smashing Pumpkins

Post by rick81 » 13 Feb 2018 14:11

D arcy ha pubblicato tutti gli sms tra lei e Corgan

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Post by AFX » 13 Feb 2018 16:00

in pratica Billy la voleva coinvolta ma aveva paura che non sarebbe stata in grado di suonare per l'intero concerto - tour
lei ha pensato di esserlo invece
alla fine Billy la voleva solo usare per non deludere i fan, ma lei voleva far parte della reunion sul serio

tutto questo manco stessimo parlando di musicisti tipo Tony Levin, Bill Bruford e Adrian Belew.

insomma, il tour degli smashing pumpkins parte con le premesse sbagliate, e come pare, del disco non importa, conta il tour
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Re: apples + oranjes = the Smashing Pumpkins

Post by rick81 » 13 Feb 2018 16:10

La frase in cui le dice che se vuole la
Possono mettere nelle t shirt è squallida

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Post by simoirs » 13 Feb 2018 16:23

Mi piace il punto in cui dice che non c'é margine d'errore: se il tour sarà un fiasco la band finisce.

Peccato per l'album: la prospettiva di avere nuove jam Corgan - Iha - Chamberlin dopo 25 anni metteva una voglia pazzesca di ascoltare il risultato finale. Sarà Zeitgeist parte 2 invece, e se anche fosse bellissimo non importerebbe niente a nessuno.

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Re: apples + oranjes = the Smashing Pumpkins

Post by AFX » 13 Feb 2018 18:30

rick81 è ora di cambiare avatar, mi dispiace ma Birillo Corgan non merita elogi per quel che è stato in questo periodo. Va anzi boicottato finché non capisce che fa cagare da quasi 18 anni

e se anche fosse bellissimo non importerebbe niente a nessuno.
LOL, ma che dici.
Se fosse bellissimo, importerebbe. Il punto è che non può essere manco discreto, figuriamoci.
ma perché mai dovrebbe o potrebbe essere bellissimo? non ci sono basi. Stiamo parlando di un artista bollito da quasi 2 decenni
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Re: apples + oranjes = the Smashing Pumpkins

Post by Starn » 14 Feb 2018 00:52

Ma poi scusa ma parlare al telefono? Interessante vedere i retroscena di queste situazioni pero' che squallore.
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